Re: BSDCon 2003 (fwd)

[Joe Greenseid <jgreen@thunderlizards.net>]

i work at ncsa, and while i don't really feel like justifying myself or
the place i work to you, i would like to say that for someone speaking so
loudly and definitively, you seem pretty uninformed as to what you're
talking about.
					--Joe

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Jay Link wrote:

> Ah, yes. I'd forgotten about the NCSA. Of course, they're kinda like
> white-collar pimps, so I don't know if they count 100%.  :-)
> 
> Explanation: not only do they not pay diddly (unless you're comparing them
> to fast food jobs, or the ubiquitous residence hall cafeteria jobs that
> everyone seems to have at college), but things like Mosaic were done
> without the knowledge of management, who of course immediately turned
> around & tried to take full credit when it became popular.
> 
> On the other hand, they did offer the predecessor to Apache for free
> (right?), and didn't that free Mac FTP client -- fetch -- come from the
> NSCA as well?
> 
> So I suppose there's good & bad. They definitely foster the "MicroSerf"
> culture, but they've spawned some good stuff, too.
> 
> I have to admit, though, that I hate Champaign/Urbana with a passion --
> everyone is so arrogant, and they don't have much to back that up with! I
> mean, Christ, you'd think the place was heaven on earth the way some of
> those people behave. East Central IL sucks, and that includes Danville &
> Charleston/Mattoon, too. They've got the same climate of oppression that
> most of the Chicago suburbs have, and I think that right there explains
> another aspect of why "we're not California" -- not only does California
> has a huge population base, but as a whole, they're not afraid to try new
> things. None of this, "you'd better not rock the boat" b.s.
> 
> Springpatch may not be wonderful, but it beats the sh*t out of UIUC!  :-)
> 
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