Well, looks like we're trying to create a natural habitat for Tux.. For those of you interested, feel free to visit the view from our front door.. http://www.luci.org/~kara/snow/ I've been using my Grand Prix's front bumper for a measuring stick :P Kara Pritchard LUCI Coordinator Springfield, IL -- To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@luci.org with "unsubscribe luci-discuss" in the body.